13 Charger Mostmint # 40

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:50 pm

It is possible this is an exhaust leak - that is what the guy said. So I need to do some troubleshooting. Also I think I still have the old oil filter so I probably need to cut that apart as well.

The bad news is the heads have to come off in order to change the lifters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2NrbI5Xug
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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby GMJohnny » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:22 am

I'm wondering when she is getting the ticking and if it goes away with warming the engine
up. Is this something that just started when it got cold outside?

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:54 am

Definitely not just when it's cold. I think its all the time. And just changed the oil I was wondering if fresh oil would help but no change

I heard about it in maybe mid-November for the first time, Could have been there before just not reported by her.
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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby Basement Paul » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:55 am

Time for a cam upgrade!

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:55 am

OK so I got an automotive stethoscope I just need the car to be here in order to listen to it.

In the meantime here is what the worst case scenario looks like

$360 - lifters Mopar p/n 05038784AD
$290 - camshaft Mopar p/n 53022372AA
$225 - gaskets and head bolts Felpro

$1875 - 25 hours of labor @ $75 per hour. May be a few less hours

$185 - taxes on all this stuff

$2935

I am also looking into an aftermarket lifter so as to avoid the same problem. johnsonlifters.com I need to call them to see if their lifters work with eco-mode cars, then find a dealer. I see Crower has some of their products so if pricing is similar this is a $150 ish upgrade which I will encourage her to get.
I'll call them on Monday
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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:47 pm

Today I listened to the engine. It sounds like there are many ticks in there. My old Chevy experience tells me more than one lifter is slightly out of adjustment.

So I did some more digging and I see many possible solutions:

1) premium gas
2) different oil / oil additives
3) exhaust manifold studs broken
4) spark plugs loose / replace
5) replace rocker arms
6) replace lifters or cam/lifters

Since you can't tighten down the lifters I'm wondering if a slightly longer or adjustable pushrod would fix this.
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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby Basement Paul » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:46 am

My old boss had a V6 Challenger that had / has lifter noise. BUT one scenario made it a lot worse, and that was a cheap oil change from a lube place. There's probably some benefit to finding out the exact specs (if there are any) for that motor. I'm betting on a Charger forum there's oil-type discussions. An oil change at the dealer quieted his motor back down to "normal" noise. I believe this could be a similar situation with the Hemi.

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby GMJohnny » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:04 am

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:27 am

update #1:

The fuel pump quit last week. Trying to debug over the phone was difficult, which created an attempt to change the battery. New battery obviously did not fix the problem so the car had to be towed. Rachel found a good local shop and for just under $600 in a few days had the car back on line. Fuel pump is an easy change in this car there is an access point under the rear seat.

update #2:

After the last oil change late last year I cut up the filter and found absolutely no metal in it. This pretty much rules out bad camshaft methinks. I looked into lifter adjustment, and it turns out they are not adjustable you have to get different length pushrods to make this work. There is a kit you can get to measure, then you buy the right length rods. This sounds orders of magnitude easier than removing the heads. But I also learned that the correct viscosity is 5w20 and I had put in 0W20. Quick google search says 0W20 but the owner manual says 5w20. The car now has 1534xx miles and I did an oil change over the weekend. Rachel reports it is much quieter - so time will tell if that was fresh oil or better viscosity.
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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:12 am

In July I put new front hubs on the car. The RF had a tiny bit of play and considering how much she drives the investment was made

Yesterday it got new rear brake pads (168k). The Firestone Pursuit tires showing a lot of wear and will need to come off maybe a bit early. Also I went after the rattles up front installing four plastic rivets, some zip ties, and a new bolt on the under engine tray. Rachel reports huge improvements in the rattling up there I think this was the main problem.

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby Basement Paul » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:42 pm

So is the 5w20 oil still holding off the ticking?

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Re: 13 Charger Mostmint # 40

Postby MostMint » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:59 am

Rachel reports the rattling up front has stopped.

As far as oil, she stopped complaining so in her words it has stopped or she does not notice it. Plan to listen to it next time it’s here. After problem reported the first oil change Quieted it down for a bit but it returned.
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