1966 OLDS 442

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby Basement Paul » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:00 pm

I'm betting there's another 3/4"- 1" of drop by Spring. Put sand bags on the core support over the winter, it'll come down.

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:48 am

Basement Paul wrote:I'm betting there's another 3/4"- 1" of drop by Spring. Put sand bags on the core support over the winter, it'll come down.

-BP


I've been thinking of a way to sand bag it, but the motor is in. I agree that a bit of weight over the
winter would help.

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:42 pm

Winter 442 update: I didn't mention that the height of center of the front wheel trim before
the spring change was 27 13/16". I measured the car today and it's sitting at 27 1/4". It's amazing
what a difference that drop makes for the look of the car ( at least in my head! ) I have rebuilt
the distributor with the Pertronix III package. It's basically like having an MSD without the box on
the wall. It does offer no more points, the stock look I'm after, AND a built in rev limiter. That project
was supposed to have been done before winter hit, but the directions said that the hot wire to the
coil needed to be changed from stock. (It took the project from "just slam the new distributor in" to
"I have to figure this out" and I ran out of good weather.) The wire to the coil is a resistance wire that
keeps the points from getting burned up. It needs to be replaced to the back of the fuse box. I did find
a GTO guy who stripped the wire back enough to find the "resistance'' section and removed it, keeping
him from going all of the way to the fuse box. We'll find out what the plan is in the spring. The car is a
real bear to start when it has been sitting for some time and when it's really cold. I don't want to change
the distributor without it being warm and having been started on the same day the distributor is swapped
to make the timing process easier. A warm engine with fuel in the carbs will help a bunch! It can wait until
it's warmer out. It's supposed to be in the single digits this week, and with a barn that has no insulation,
I'm not up to the uphill battle for no real gain.

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I purchased a dash piece to replace the current dash (this is the plastic piece that stretches from
far left to just to the right of the radio). A professionally refurbed version of this piece is about $1300.
I paid $200 for the one I got. It's solid and the silver painted portion of it is pretty nice. The chrome
portion of it isn't perfect, but I rate the whole piece as an 8 out of 10. The goal this year is to replace
that piece, get the aftermarket gauges below the dash and get the aftermarket radio out and a stock
radio back in place. My current dash is cut and the aftermarket gauges are where the speaker should
be and the dash was hacked to put the radio in. Putting a stock radio in is not an option without changing
the dash. I've purchased two AM radios so far. I got one in Carlisle for $30 that had knobs and all mounting
hardware. I think I cooked it during a bench test. I purchased another on Ebay for $33 that works, but
needed knobs and nuts and a bracket. Two radios have been mated and are now morphed into one
good functional unit. The dash came with a 10 Ohm speaker to go in the dash. I'm planning on removing
the rear speakers and the ones in the front to go to the old school one speaker system. I bought a device
called Redi-rad which will allow me to aux cord in my Ipod or phone. This will give me other music and
FM radio. I cleaned up the new radio today and bench tested it. Once it gets to an average temp of 45
or so, I'll start working on the dash. I'm ready now with my parts. Below is a pic of the radio and its donor
unit. (The parts unit has 67 Cutlass written on it.)

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:01 pm

The temperature today made it to the mid forties with sun. I fired up the 442 and pulled it out
of the barn. It took only minutes to start and, once fired, sat and idled perfectly. Once it got to
temperature, I shut it down and (finally) changed the voltage regulator ( the new one I purchased
on November 9 ) that was on the bench. The new voltage regulator has solid state internals and not
the old points style. It worked perfectly. I'll drive it for a few months this summer as is, and after
it's been time-tested, I'll grind off the rivets that hold the top on and put the "Delco-Remy" top off
of the old one on it. It is a lifetime warranty regulator and switching the top I'm sure will kill the
warranty, but that's ok. I also removed all of the tape on the wire from the fuse box to the coil.
The wire I need to replace doesn't seem to have a resistance portion in it, but it needs to be 12 ga.
and the wire that's there is 16 ga. It shouldn't be too much of a chore to rewire it to the coil, and
that's next on the list.


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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby Basement Paul » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:53 pm

Tomorrow is your 10 year anniversary on TireSmoke...

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 am

Since I purchased the 442, the dash board has driven me crazy. The gauges are where the speaker is
supposed to be and the aftermarket radio looks like crap and was installed poorly. I found a decent one
on Craigslist Cincinnati and had it shipped to me. Then..... a guy I found on an Oldsmobile forum, who
has done over 500 of my kind of dash, had a "discounted" dash for sale. I paced and sweated and discussed
and paced and sweated some more then decided to go for it. The new dash will be in the mail shortly.
As long as I'm there, with my dash all ripped apart, I might as well fix the crack in the dash pad too, right??
The same guy who sold me the dash has a pad that's in good shape. He's going to refurb that pad and my
glove box door too. The glove box door is getting ripped off today and will be shipped tomorrow.
I told my dash guy that I'm trying to find a way on my taxes this year I need to find a way to make the 442
a dependent or somehow write off the parts as a charitable donation!
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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby wxo » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:04 am

Hey GM. Forget the dash. That's a fantastic workbench!!

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:33 am

wxo wrote:Hey GM. Forget the dash. That's a fantastic workbench!!


That bench belongs to the guy who repairs the dashboards. Apparently, when you've
done over 500 of them, you can afford that type of workbench!!

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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:43 pm

With a mild temperature start to the day, I went to the barn and started the
dashboard project. It started in the trunk, removing the speakers in the rear
deck. The previous owner had speakers put in the back, but didn't cut the deck
behind the seat. ( The speakers were UNDER the cardboard deck )Removing the
speakers didn't change the way the car looks, other than there are some ugly wires
removed from in the trunk. I took the back seat all the way out, which made it easy
to work in the trunk from the inside of the car. All of the wiring to the back speakers
has been removed from the car. ( I only want one speaker in the dash on this car -- that's
how it's supposed to be. ) I then went to the front of the interior and started removing
the front speakers. It became very obvious that the seats were in the way, so I invested
the 5 minutes per side to remove the seats. After the speakers were out, I removed the
radio. The install on this radio was far from clean, so I spent some time removing wires
and labeling wires that were important -- accessory power, main power, ground, etc...
I'm working on getting all of the original wires to power what they should, so there's a bit
of figuring out to do as I lay on my back. I did figure out the glovebox light, so that will work
when I reassemble the dash. Also, the many wires that are a mess under the dash won't be
when I'm done, the installer didn't run the wires the correct way under the dash, but I will.
I also removed my aftermarket gauges from the dash. The water gauge is still hooked
up to the block, since it will require me draining coolant out of the motor to reposition
it, I'll wait until the dash is back in the car, then mount the gauges under the dash in an
aftermarket three gauge bracket. Based on what I'm seeing as I look under the dash, I'll
want the room where they should be to put my face in to see behind the dash. So far,
so good... It took me about three hours to do what I've explained. Right now, I have a
big mess on my hands, but this is just step one in the project. I talked to the dash guy, he
expects to send out my parts mid-week this week. It's going to be cold here for a week or
so, so I'm in no rush. More to come.

GM
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Re: 1966 OLDS 442

Postby GMJohnny » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:40 pm

I talked to my dash guy ( his name is Ron Roth, out of Michigan ) and he told me he'd have my dash to me
before I went on vacation. True to his word, the dash showed up at work yesterday. With warmer weather
guaranteed today for us, Fred and I took to the barn around 10 am. It took us about 6 hours to do the
complete dash swap. This included cleaning knobs and switches that were removed from the old dash and
reinstalled into the new refurbed one and cleaning the steel dash framing the dash bolts to. I also installed
the factory stock AM radio and spent a bunch of time routing wiring the way it was supposed to be. ( No pics
of that, but it looks WONDERFUL under my dash!! ) I didn't completely finish the job, as I need to mount the
aftermarket gauges and bolt in the seats yet, but we made a HUGE dent in the project. I'm really excited
about this awesome upgrade ( and the fact that everything worked when I got done)!
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Once the job is competed, I'll get some better pics of the car outside.

GM


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